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online at msnbc.com. the rachel maddow show is up next with a closer look at what kind of influence the coke brothers really have in wisconsin. good evening. >> thank you very much for that and thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. when it became clear that and sarah palin were a bad choice for the republican presidential ticket in 2008, it's starting to become clear that barack obama and joe biden were going to win the election and probably win big, right before that election took place, something kind of weird started happening in presidential politics. the tactic of the political fringe and the kind of stuff hecklers scream, that stuff started getting voiced by at least one of the candidates themselves. it felt weird at the time, i don't think it was by accident. i don't think it was unpredictable.
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at the time we were reporting on this turn in presidential politics before the '08 election, we said on this show what was happening should be considered a new law in american political science. i here by submit that the longer it's clear that liberals or democrats win an election or liberals or democrats win an argument, the more likely it becomes that someone is going to get called a commy. socialist. pinko comrade five-year planner. >> it's taking more from a small business or from a small business owner or from a hardworking family and redistributing that money according to a politician's priorities? there hints of socialism in there. >> hints of socialism with 15 days to go. the best thing they can come up with is barack obama is a socialist. he's a commy. >> that was two weeks before the
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2008 election. that law, that principle, i swear it holds true. the longer an argument goes on and the longer the liberal side of the argument is winning, the more likely it becomes that somebody is going to get called -- >> yesterday i saw signs unions for america. i said what america doob to be for? the socialist america? they have come to madison. that's a fact. you have the socialists and the communists. >> card carrying. joe the plumber is still around in wisconsin this weekend as a featured speaker on a coke brothers sponsored counter protest, prorepublican bus tour to try to make it seem like the tens of thousands of people on the streets of mad and rallying over the state against the
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republican union strip suggest one side. there is another protest too. it is a protest made up of buses paid for by the coke brothers and hired talent like the plumber. there was the bloody red hand print, hands off by health care from the health reform debate. that was the same funded group that did the wisconsin buses and the november is coming bus tour that being a coke brothers group launched. the bus tour instant fake movement thing is becoming a robust cottage industry for some corporations they like to make it look like there were humans on their side. they pay to make that impression. you get a rally for the oil industry. remember this one? this in houston is actually made up of oil industry employees who were bussed to the rally by their company. it made it part of people's jobs
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to go to rally in support of their corporation. or you get the american coal industry launching the faces of coal website where clip art stocks photos of people passed off of real life humans who support the coal industry and have faces. sometimes the most direct way to see through the corporate-funded pr and made to look like politics is by looking at the fine print on the signs. the oil rally featured signs with the energy citizens. what's energy citizens? if you persist, you will find that it is an organization created by the american petroleum institute. this weekend we got the same sort of corporate funded movement thing going on in wisconsin. really it's not just a pattern, it's a template. they always do it the same way. here are the signs held in
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wisconsin yesterday. stand with walker. what's the fine print? oh. a project for americans with prosperity. americans for prosperity. founded by david coke, the oil billionaire coke brothers. they saw their budget balloon from $7 million in 2007 to $40 million in 2010 as they turned their influence-buying efforts up to 11. that means more money for bus tours. the coke brothers in charge of americans for prosperity, he's a real pro at this. his name is tim phillips. that was a scandal and that in effect was stomach turning in lots of ways. one of the most nauseating things about that entire scandal was tim phillips who worked with ralph reed. he used to be the head of the
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christian coalition before he went to work with jack abramoff. he used them to gin up fake christian political support for whatever jack abramoff's clients wanted. say he had a casino. he would get the marketing company to start up a we are christians and we are outraged against gambling campaign. what would that do? keep new casinos from being built that might compete with jack's client casino. they were getting anti-gambling christians to maximize casino profits from the clients or there was the ilans things. the u.s. common wealth. that's a helpful map. it's a dot. the u.s. government did an investigation into working continues there and found that sweat shop workers were working
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in sweat shop conditions, but being forced into prostitution. forced to have abortions. maybe being manufactured under the conditions. forced abortions? maybe they should not carry the made newscast usa label. maybe they have not earned that. jack took on the islands as a client and then put ralph reed and tim phillips on the case. the marketing company got christians from alabama to lobby their member of congress in favor of the forced abortion and forced prostitution sweat shop on the grounds that the chinese laborers were being introduced to jesus while they were there. presumably in between the forced abortions and forced prostitution. i asked about that when he had him here on the show in 2009. his answer was essentially, that was a long time ago. it may have been a long time ago, but he still has the same basic job.
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he doesn't work for jack abramoff anymore. he went to prison. now tim phillips works for the coke brothers helping to gin up their corporate interests. he wanted to denounce the opponents as card-carrying communists. of course to make it look like the coke brothers's cause has overwhelming support. a bus tour of wisconsin resulted in several hundred people turned up for a rally on saturday. according to the own state director, the turn out of 600 people in madison was the largest on the entire 10-city tour. americans for prosperity and tim phillips aside, the republicans and the governor scott walker lost this one. another conservative institute showing that the state is lop sided in feelings against governor walker and the
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republicans. despite some bad reporting today that the standoff over the republican union-stripping plan was coming to an end, it doesn't seem like it is and the longer it goes on, the liberal side is winning, i'm telling you. the more people will be called communi communist. it's a rule. more guys will have to make up for the cost and the republicans have incurred by picking and losing. state senator joins us now from wisconsin who remains outside of wisconsin to deny republicans the forum they need. thank you for your time. >> thanks, rachel. >> there was reporting late last night and early this morning that democrats would head back to wisconsin and this was about to come to an end. what was your reaction? >> when i saw the headline i was surprised and i head the quotes
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and basically he hasn't said anything that we haven't been saying. we are ready to go back. that is not up to us. it's up to the republican to come to a resolution over this. i talked to senator miller and we were very frustrated last thursday night. we thought there was a headway with governor walker and the republicans passed a resolution saying we crossed state lines and we would be arrested. that is incentive to go back and we were surprised that we were getting signs and maybe we would move forward. from the republicans, taking a big step back. there is frustration that led to the article on sunday night. we are where we were from the beginning weer taking it day by day and continue to reach out and senator miller sent a letter to senator fitzgerald to talk things over the response we got back was not the warmest. we continue to stay here and
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reach out. >> in terms of how this might end, what would you need to hear from governor walker or from the republicans in order to get you back. what are you waiting to hear? >> that's a good question. we would like to hear that they are honest efforts to bring resolution to this. we have been up front about why we are here and up front about what we would like to see change in the budget repair bill or the state budget starting to come back as well. there a couple of ways to get out of here. you can take an amendment to restore a lot of what governor walker wanted to take away. the other option is collective bargaining as a whole. we are not bunling and they are not budging. take out that language and put it in the budget and debate that for the next three months. that will be done through the normal process. a couple of committee hearings and they will be able to weigh in and they will be done in the light of day and face-to-face.
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>> governor walker is conceding that on his own side of the aisle, he may have lost a vote he was counting on from dale schultz. they can only stand to lose two other votes and still pass this thing as i understand it. do you think that one way it might resolve is your caucus might persuade two other republicans to vote against what walker is doing? >> there a couple of things going on. we have seen the polls and the little of the polls. they are all saying the same thing. the governor should take the compromise. the poll came out saying 67% of the people supported that. if you are a senate republican and taking a look and seeing how quickly they are gathering up the signatures, you take the results and the recall information you have, that may
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nudge you to say we need a resolution. to be fair, we get along outside of the capital, but we get along with him fine. we know as a fact, we were voted on separately. there would be or six or seven who would vote against it. it's causing a great deal of concern they seem to be under more pressure placed on the comments of senator fitzgerald. again, we are doing what we have been doing and we are staying here and coming to a compromise. >> one last detail i wanted to. we are hearing rumors that there would be a tractor motorcade? are you hearing the rumors? >> yes, i am. as you know, we have a strong community in the state of
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wisconsin and politically involved. they're bringing their tractors down to the square and showing up and that's great to see. ag is an important industry in the state and we need to keep it as strong as we can. they are supporting our efforts and supporting more importantly the efforts down in madison. it will be a cool thing to see and you are not doing anything. it might be worth your while to hop to madison. >> i hear you. >> break away with your name on it. >> i am taking it under consideration. >> john is in exile in chicago. thank you for your time >> thanks. >> eugene robinson in a moment. richard engle live from libya and john enson resigning from the senate. years after that scandal happened. all coming up. one more thing about governor scott walker's union-stripping
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want to see one of the coke brothers get banged for money on tape? want to? >> posting that clip of massachusetts republican senator, scott brown telling them how important the money was to them and highway they could use more. please. the coke brothers have been good to scott brown. in november 2009 when scott brown's race was the only impenning senate race, david coke gave just over $30,000 to
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the senate campaign committee and the brothers coke industries pack gave the committee $15,000 at that time and gave mr. brown's campaign $5,000 directly. the coke industries pack has given tens of thens to another republican, this guy, scott walker. this is probably why someone impersonating david coke was able to get walker on the phone last month for 20 minutes in the middle of what was supposedly a pleasure crisis. repercussions from the prank continued reverberating and in that call he tipped his strategy and explained how he would trick democrats in coming back to the capital and passing the union stripping thing and use the threat of laying off state workers for the political effect. now that is giving walker say
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new headache. the state democrats filed a explain the over what mr. walker said over what governor walker said he believed was the oil billionaire who funded his campaign they are raising concerns about that this part. >> we are going days and weeks and months ahead. >> reinforcing the economy and a good thing to do for the state. the extent that that is over and over again is a good thing. >> scott walker suggesting to david coke, the real david coke should get out the message for republicans. raising the idea that coke-funded expenditure to support the state's senators particularly in swing districts. that's the thing about independent ex-penttures. if a politician suggests them, they are no longer independent.
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mr. walker was not only coordinating campaign expenditures in that moment, he was soliciting the help from the governor's office inside the state capital. you were not supposed to solicit from your office. talking about the coke brothers in 2011, it is starting to feel like karl rove in 2004. if you care about progressive politics or fair play in 2011, you can't get away. they are too ubiquitous. they come up one after another from union yon busting and the phony astroturf bus tours to the partiality of supreme court justices. every time a gross scandal erupts, big or small, there is the coke brothers. i am sick of these guys already, but every time you turn over a
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political rock, there they are. another example, the safety commission database scheduled to go online is a no brainer. the public can use it to find out about safety concerns for household products like i said, a no brainer. it passed the house of representatives in 2007. it passed the senate by a mile. the legislation was signed into law by george w. bush to zero controversy. who is going to object to consumer product safety information being put online? this guy will. the vote american slogan here has to do with the fact that mike mom pail was running against an indian-american opponent in the last election. vote american. even though the other guy is american too or he wouldn't be able to n. you know what i mean. mike was elected thanks in large part to his largest campaign contributors. the coke brothers and their
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pack, coke is based in pompeo's district in wichita. they lobbied on the issue of the consumer product safety database suddenly america found one chicagoman and the republican of coke brothers in kansas. he tried to spike this database, the kansas city star looks like he will fail in the efforts, but i'm sure the men upstairs appreciate the efforts anyway. i don't want to keep talking about them. i do not. they are awkward and boring and i'm not interested in talking about them. i don't top the put their names in the spotlight. these guys are earning it every single day. joining us now is eugene robinson, columnist for "the washington post." great to see you. >> great to be here. coke industries and the coke brothers earning this reputation
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they are getting like i think they are? i am prepared to be told that they are bookie men and being blamed for more than they are being responsible for. >> they are working for you every single day. the difference between the coke brothers and karl rove or lee atwater or others who played a villain role, these are the guys with all the money in the world who own the biggest private company or second biggest. in the country. they are a combined personal fortune is third to that of bill gates and warren buffett. you have not heard the last of the coke brothers. >> does that explain the timing? we entered in the citizens united universe into an era in which there unlimited horizons in terms of what money can buy you in politics they have been active for a long time and they have turned it up to 11 they are doing a lot more than
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they used to be doing. does that explain the timing? >> thely. everyone has caught on to the coke brothers. they did a lot of stuff for a while that we didn't really hear about. it's not that they turned the area and one founded the kato foundation and the other founded americans for prosperity, it's just that we are paying attention >> because people are talking to them. are we getting to the point that a coke brothers endorsement starts being a liability for either candidates or causes that they endorse? >> i don't think we are quite there. we could get there. i think some candidates, scott fwloun a state like massachusetts, that's a problem, i think. given that he had to run and essentially a blue state for other candidates.
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it wouldn't be a problem and i think the coke brothers would be just as happy to kind of fade into the background and let their money do the talking and not be out front at all. >> that's maybe what has changed. they were able to keep everything quiet about them. they have been convening the major donor conservative strategy sessions for years. it was sort of new about the conspiracy sense, but now it's behind the scenes and they seem angry about that. i do wonder if that means they can marginalize criticism as always being liberal and hysterical. >> they can try. i think what people have to do is look at what they are actually doing. it wasn't a real coke brother talking to the governor, for example. it was a fake coke brother. i think people will start looking at things like independent expenditures and that sort of thing in connection with the coke brothers. now that we know they are doing
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this, let's see if it's on the up and up. even then there rules. >> the congressman has a long history with the coke brothers and not only helped them get elected, but get rich by investing. do we have a sense of who the coke brothers's caucus is. mike is the chairman and scott brown is a ranking member. are others -- are we getting a sense of who they are? >> we don't have the full sense, but i think we tried to put that database and put it online. it's an amazing story. we can't have that. >> the coke brothers say you can. >> now you understand. >> columnist for "the washington post." great to have you. >> next on the to do sls taking
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i'm david vetter and i'm running for the u.s. senate for the sake of our children. >> great, david. you can start by changing jack >> david put his family values image to the senate when he was elected in 2004. about 2 1/2 years into the term, his name popped up in the phone records of the d.c. madam he never faced criminal prostitution matters, but admitted to a serious sin and stuck around. he stayed. he stayed in the senate. the party essentially stood by him and this past november, david was reelected. the hooker guy. still there. senator john enson ran for office on family values and continued to tote them while in office
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they called on president clinton to resign the tts because of a monica lewinsky affair saying of the president "he has no credibility left." ensign took a stand on behalf of the sanctity of marriage saying marriage is the cornerstone on which our society was founded. for those who say that the constitution is sacred that we should not adopt the federal marriage amend am, i would point out that it predates the american constitution and the fun toing of our nation. the sanctity of marriage to john ensign when he was pushing for an amendment to define marriage size not for the homos. john ensign had an a fire with the wife of one of his staffers. he hired their son to work worry the republican party while he was with the wife's mom. the wife and her husband had to
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quit working for john ensign. i don't have to heart to inquire what happened to the son. they had to leave his senator ensign's parents paid the husband and wife $96,000. they tried really hard to make it sound like a gift. here's the most awkward letter of all time drafted to get that job done. in april 2008, his parents made gifts to doug and sinty hampton in the form of a check totalling $96,000. each was limited to $12,000. they were accepted as gifts and complied with the tax rules on gifts. the parents decided to make it out of concern for the well being of long time friends in a difficult time. one check to the couple and two of their children. do the math. it adds up to $96,000 the hamptons have three children and john ensign's parents in
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order to make this work out must not have liked the third child very much. no $12,000 gift for you, third child. having done a very bad job making this all seem okay, having done a bad job as republican senate chairman which he was in all the affair stuff after an fbi investigation on the cover up and still senator ensign never lost the public support of the republican party. he announced today that on his own terms, he is leaving the senate, insisting beyond all shadow of irony that he needs to put his family first. >> as you know, campaigns are ugly enough today. this campaign would be exceptionally ugly. because of that, i don't want to put my family through that. for these reasons, i will not be seeking reelection in 2012.
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>> always puts his family first. senator ensign giving a statement that needed very walkard levels of an notation. >> i want to pay a special note of thanks to my loyal staff. it has been difficult on them. they handled themselves with professionalism and have served the people in the state of nevada in an extraordinary way. >> asterisk. when he said he wants to pay a special word of thanks for professionalism, he is saying not the staff member i was with or whose wife i was with. the rest of the staff he is thanking for being loyal and professional. john ensign is not in a rush. he is sticking around for the rest of his term. more than a year and a half left in the rest of his term at this point he will continue to work alongside david viter in the senate at that time he will be there through the
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nominating process that just today afforded us the expect cal of newt gingrich addressing the iowa faith and freedom coalition and to keep what they call social issues like marriage and sexual morality on the front burner of politics. the statement about the importance of morality. newt gingrich who admitted having had an affair while married to his second wife in the time of the impeachment of president clinton, newt gingrich today lecturing the nation on the importance of morality. the iowa faith and freedom coalition is part of the national group and run by ralph reed who you may remember from earlier in the show as the guy who with tim phillips was involved in scandal and the let's get anti-gambling christians to be outraged about a new casino who might compete. ralph reed also one of the guys

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The Rachel Maddow Show
MSNBC March 8, 2011 12:00am-1:00am EST

News/Business. (2011)

TOPIC FREQUENCY Wisconsin 9, Us 9, America 8, Libya 7, Walker 6, John Ensign 5, Ralph Reed 4, Scott Walker 4, Newt Gingrich 4, John Enson 4, Tim Phillips 4, Scott Brown 4, Jack Abramoff 3, Scott 3, David Coke 3, Britain 3, U.s. 3, Chuck 2, Gaddafi 2, Mr. Walker 2
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